The Midnight Watch

okay I'm back again loving the whole feel of the shard as it bulks out and whilst I appreciate the desire to promote interaction and group play I think it might have gone a little far now as there is practically nowhere to go solo and the reality is we still have quite a low population so are often in the position where often there is not many people online, quite a few have stated that they login check the [whosonline and log off if no one is around. they may be inclined to stay online more if there was something worthwhile to do.

This would also mean the next to log in sees their are people online so would be more inclined to stay in game too.

another side effect of this is there is no where safe for new chars to go to get up to speed so if they cant train up and no one is ever online for them to group with to train why should they stay?

It might be time to expand our fish bowl a bit and move some of the harder spawn further out and possibly a solo dungeon of some depth as well as a more comprehensive group dungeon, maybe even just stick destard or despise or something in how they were pre AoS and open up so we can get there?

bola's don't work whether all hands full, or all hands empty just says you need a free hand

I can sort ye that out no problem

*signed* Althalus

I appreciate what your point is but there is a difference between an exception and an extreme, 5.0% is extreme and there is no way to justify the price difference I'm not saying gm should be able to make exceptional all the time but an extra 1% on success chance per 10 arms lore say would take it from stupid to expensive but worth it, it would still leave the exceptional on a plate tunic as a difficult but actually achievable 15.0% and studded tunic would become 27.0% just make it that bit more in line with the amount someone might be willing to pay for a relativity small increase in defence/offence over a non exceptional

just to highlight this when I mention I used over 2k ingots trying to make one I didn't stop because I succeeded I stopped cos I ran out of ingots I didn't actually make the item, I can make the rest of the plate suit for about 500 ish ingots give or take for none exceptional and retrying but to use four times as much as the entire rest of the suit and -still- not succeed is a little too much for me to swallow and if I include failure and retry costs a lot of my armour actually prices up as costing about 1/2 to 1/10 of a gold per ingot used when averaged out over the range and people still want lower prices, I trade resources at a loss and to make a single set of plate arms can mean more than half an hours work mining and crafting combined to sell it for the same as a baker can sell a cake or an alchemist a single bottle of potion.

I know you want everyone to not be running around in exceptional gear but if I want to sell things that's what people want if I say that due to resource cost they get the first that succeeds in crafting exceptional or not then the player goes to a smith that will make them exceptional so the choice is hours of game play resource gathering for little return which is no fun for anyone cos they are all spread out gathering resources instead of interacting or no one comes for your services unless they don't have another choice which basically makes having the skill at all pointless unless your the only crafter left of that type.

now for me personally I have been putting in a lot of hours recently so I can be around to RP and gather resources to keep my prices low so far but it seems a little harsh on people that play less frequently to not be able to compete with me just because they don't have that much time and when they are on they want to enjoy some RP not just resource gather for 2 hours to fill a single order or slog away to get enough gold for some armour that's so damn expensive compared to loot drops you might as well just sell your soul to the undead just so they can enjoy a good dungeon bust with a group without dying every five minutes.

cheers for the change log

no I completely understand what your saying about the private boards and I like the idea about ic stashes I was thinking more of organising undead raids etc anyway just trying to make sure I didn't leave anyone out

can we have private sections to the forum btw? like an undead section maybe a criminal section etc so that these factions can organise a bit

could throwing daggers be made stackable? maybe also put in the belt that would normally be used for throwing stars and make that accept throwing daggers also?

I think limited safe storage is a good thing, as Craystor says, he and Derek just walked off with 1000 gold, just stop and think of the weight of gold and size of a coin then think how much 1000 of them would weight ....... as I said previously some rules for stealing from other people setting a limit to what you can steal ic due to the weight, size, bulk of items would be good but secure storage helps keep it ic and avoid the hard feelings of being screwed over for an unrealistic amount ooc

say 50 - 100 gold is approximately a gold bar and the average person would struggle to lift 2 or 3 gold bars IRL I don't think its unreasonable to say a limit of 1 or 2 hundred gold max each thief can take from each person same with ingots, boards, logs, leather i think realistic IC limits to what you can take would both help stop people feeling completely smegged due to loosing everything and stop thieves from just stealing everything they want at everyone else's expense.

personally I  would never take more than 100 gold and never take so much as to leave a char with less than 100 so if they have 50 I would pass them over if they have 150 I would take 50 if they have 200 or more I would take 100 but that's my choice as a nice person to keep the stealing IC with the 100 limit and also not take the last little bit someone has so that they cant get back on their feet

I agree with the pre aos builds restricting stupid designs and think that would be a good idea, not sure about custom builds like what you want for the workspace or i would like for the inn but id be willing to compromise for something that works, as for storage/workspace I've been trying to get the inn expanded as all the bunks(4) are now full each one with a locked box behind a locked door to the guest room since about a week and a half before the elections, the GM's simply don't have time and as you say not much fun for them so how long before your workspaces are built? how many people loosing stuff  to thieves and thus leaving the shard? maybe I'm being over paranoid but there is a reason why uo put skills in like pickpocket etc but gave people a secure bank, and later houses. No-one likes to work really hard for something just for someone else to spend five seconds stealing it and origin wisely provided opportunity for those that would like to play that way and security for those that don't.

if you just give for example Issac a house placement tool, you go and purchase a plot from him, he comes looks over the land, if he agrees with the spot he places it and transfers so IC you have bought a plot of land then you can build it IC as you get the money in instead of *poof* it magically appears one night

i think maybe we need an irc chat arranged or something so everyone can talk about these things and share opinions and concerns

also instead of having loads of empty buildings around if they were all plots then would be a lot easier to see where you can actually move in and who owns what instead of the current confusion.

proper house plots we can design ourselves would work well as a gold sink since they cost gold to build and takes a load off the gm's with everyone wanting houses these days obviously they would have to conform to certain limits in keeping with the scenario like all wood walls or 90% cos of stone being rear and so forth and a gm would probably be needed to place the plot and then transfer it over to stop houses going up anywhere and everywhere and would also mean that with the rarity of gold you could have them go up a bit at a time as you got the gold in representing  the build progress

erm I don't photograph well so here's the best of a bad bunch